Title:
Healing Through Fascia: A Journey to Balance with Dr. Jess
Subtitle:
Dr. Jessica Stavale on The Fascia Movement, Trauma, and Transformation
Transcript:
Alycia Anderson: Welcome to Pushing Forward with Alycia, a podcast that gives disability a voice. Each week we will explore topics like confidence, ambition, resilience, and finding success against all odds. We are creating a collective community that believes that all things are possible for all people. Open hearts, clear paths.
Let’s go.
Welcome back to Pushing Forward with Alycia. I’m Alycia. So today we’re gonna talk about healing trauma, releasing pain, finding balance in body, mind, spirit. Yes, please. Sign me up. I need that immediately. And I wanna start with a question. What if we turned pain that we carry, whether it’s physical, emotional, or spiritual, and could transform that into peace?
That is exactly what our beautiful next guest, Dr. Jessica Stavale, or known as Dr. Jess, on her wildly popular social media platforms. She is the founder of Fascia Medicine. She’s a clinical trauma psychologist, disabled vet. Thank you for your service.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: Thank you.
Alycia Anderson: She is somebody that I met in DC, when we were at an event together, and I was instantly drawn to her work because she’s connecting the dots for us.
She connects wellness, our community, peace, harmony, being one with the earth, and so many beautiful things. She blends Fascia Medicine, integrative practices, and psychology to help people release trauma, balances, energies, and turns pain into peace. I love it so much. A quick note, this podcast is for inspiration and this is gonna be educational for you on the fascia system.
I’m so excited to learn about everything that is Dr. Jess. Thank you for coming on this show.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: It’s such an honor. I love it. I’m so excited.
Alycia Anderson: We have so much to talk about. I’ve got a long list, and I think we should just start with, if you don’t mind, your journey in this work that you’re doing. It feels deeply personal. Can you share about your own healing journey, your story, and what has led you here? You’ve got, what, 2 million followers.
You’ve got a wildly successful platform, and I wanna hear all about it. Where did it start from?
Dr. Jessica Stavale: So, it really came to fruition after my second major car accident. So, my life has dealt a lot of trauma, and after my second major car accident, both not my fault, both zero fault. That one put me on Social Security Disability, and was left in a place that I was told, ” You’re forever gonna be stuck in this pain.
There’s nothing more we can do.” I’ve had surgery, surgical procedures. I exhausted every possible modality that I could find to try to help me, and it was just the weaving of life. And my first car accident happened when I was in the United States Air Force. So I was young when that happened.
And the breakdown of my right foot snapping off the brake pedal in that car accident led to just a breakdown in the body, looking back from the way you compensate from such an injury, and that foot and ankle being rebuilt twice. And then there’s a sexual trauma behind me that went into raising my daughter as a solo parent.
I was on disability and kind of said, that was it. When I say I was exhausting every avenue, I am talking four to seven appointments in a week. I was stuck, and I was experiencing this pain. And, along the way, I just started to deep dive from my bed and couch. I wasn’t really mobile at that time.
I decided to go back for my master’s in clinical psychology. And from there, during the psychology, I started to relate how that was manifesting into physical pain and ailments. And then my mind wanted to figure out, why is it staying there? We’ve exhausted everything with the bones and the muscles. What is carrying this and morphing this, and how is this happening for so many other people? And that’s when I just super nerded out all day on the fascia system. And then I went back for a PhD in integrative medicine. And through life’s journeys, formal education, clinical work, personal, everything wove together. And I believe for the extensive amount of trauma that is behind me and the way life has really knocked me down, I now can look back and find so much beauty and where it’s brought me and knowing somehow all those years when I couldn’t see it, this delivered me here, and this delivered me to a place to be able to serve people and really make this common knowledge. And I come from a place of self care. I don’t try to teach clinically. I really try to break things down because the empowering moments of what would’ve changed my life was if somebody could’ve just related to me in a way that made sense.
And how do I help myself? That was the big one. We are energetic beings. And I think that was removed for so long, and we really can’t take that away. The same way you can walk into a room, and you feel that energy, or your hair stands up, or you just know something about somebody, that’s energy.
We are that, and we can’t take that out of who we are. And that’s really how things manifest for us also.
Alycia Anderson: So, I love a couple things that you just said. Number one, I love that you said that we’re energetic human beings.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: You can confirm, but you said that was taken away from you for a little bit. So I’m assuming, when you were going through your surgeries and your medical journey, a lot of that energy was either taken away from the assumptions that things wouldn’t be able to be fixed or your disability, your injuries are just the way that they are. And I love that you put in the time, the energy in yourself to have self-advocacy and find your path. And then you also said something about sharing thatvery powerful message right there for our community of, we are energetic human beings, no matter what our body’s encapsulating in that moment. And how do you lift that up and leverage it to move forward? And it’s so beautiful how you found this path through navigating your trauma, instead of maybe trying to push it away or act like it isn’t there.
Alycia Anderson: So, amazing.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: And nobody would’ve blamed me at that point. Two major car accidents, the amount of trauma behind me, on Social Security Disability, a single, full-time mother raising my daughter by myself. At that point, nobody would’ve blamed me if I just would’ve said, ” I accept. I’m just gonna ride this out on disability, and I don’t have anything left.”
And to me, it wasn’t even a question. That was not possible. There’s just a fire inside me that knew better, and I think that’s what intuition is, and I believe more people need to hear that within themselves, not accept what other people are saying. You define you, no matter the limitations.
Alycia Anderson: Yeah. And that fire that we feel inside of us, that’s why I started my business too ’cause I had this fire that I couldn’t ignore anymore. But as disabled people, disabled women, it is very easy to listen to the, “Not possible. You can’t, don’t worry.” So I love that you push through that to see what was on the other side, which was pretty magical, honestly.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: It is.
Alycia Anderson: Amazing. That’s being a powerhouse woman.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: Thank you.
Alycia Anderson: So, for listeners who may not be familiar with what exactly fascia is, and all of the things that you are doing with this research and healing, can you explain what we’re talking about here?
Dr. Jessica Stavale: Yes. So I really make this easy and I want to explain it in a way that anybody can listen to what I’m saying right now and understand it, so I don’t go too far clinical with it. But you have to know that you’ll have one system in your human body that literally connects, interweaves, intertwines with every single other system.
There’s no other system that we have that communicates and intertwines with every other system in there. It is, by fact, known to be now our largest sensory system. And I call it the emotional body. This is where we weave in ancient Eastern wisdom, where you bring in chakras, meridians, where they knew things about the energetic channels, right? And then you also intertwine powerhouse of western medicine. We need both. And the divide needs to stop. It’s the integrative. And you have 40 to 52 pounds of fascia in your body. So it is like the human webbing that just goes everywhere. It’s the reason why your organs do not kerplunk.
It’s the reason why you can take force without your organs, or something internally, getting too hurt. Yes, you can break a bone, but it’s there to protect us, right? And I think it’s really that quantum interface that is able to interact with the energy and emotions around you, but it’s also what, in my opinion, holds on to that emotion, which can manifest in all of these physical symptoms.
Alycia Anderson: Wow. I’m literally looking at your Instagram right now with an image of what fascia looks, and it looks like it is all-encompassing of your body swirling literally around everywhere. Wow, that’s incredible. So, you combine these practices, fascia medicine with integrative.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: Yes.
Alycia Anderson: What does that mean?
Dr. Jessica Stavale: It means combination. I don’t have black and white thinking. I believe that collaboration of intelligence is what brings growth and what brings true change in power. So I never sit in the mindset of, “I need to discredit this to make this right.” There is validity in everything we already know about the body, but how do we bring it together, and then bring in the advanced research that is going on with the Fascia system, and knowing that this system was previously disregarded. Hundreds of years ago, it was literally just thrown aside and thought of as packing material for the human body. And it was just, “Let me get rid of that so I can get to what really matters.” And so, while there’s a place that we need to definitely focus in on different organs and systems, we can’t just take away over 20% of the human body, and be like, “Oh, it’s just sticky and it’s packing and it has no play.” Common sense is gonna say, “Eh, nope. The human body is way bigger than probably what the human mind can even totally grasp.” And that’s where we’ve taken out the energetic side of us, and trying to just make it what we can put into a study, instead of trusting. And when I talk about this, everyone goes, ” Yeah, I know.” I can feel that. ‘Cause it’s you, and you just have to know and trust your own body.
Alycia Anderson: I absolutely agree. I think knowing interest in your body is one of the most important things that we can focus on. For sure. Especially, when you have a body that has gone through trauma, or a disability, or something. Oftentimes, we’re having to think outside of the box to really have a connection with what’s going on that might not be at surface level, figuring out what the actual route is.
So this is really fascinating. How does this intersect with the wellness community and that piece of the intersection? Can you talk about your work there?
Dr. Jessica Stavale: Yeah. So all this started during my journey of healing after the second car accident, I invented a medical device that was focused for the fascia, focused for letting go. That medical device is finally coming into manufacturing this fall and to be released in the spring.
I’m very proud of that because I’ve done this solo, on my own, without investors, and I’ve worked my butt off to be able to make this real, and I know that it delivers. But from that medical device, I worked backwards. I used to try to teach people how to release the fascia system by hand. I do have 10 years before my educational and professional path weaved with everything I’ve done. So after the military, I was a massage therapist for 10 years, along with a stylist before I became a dental hygienist, and then went on after the second car accident.
So, during that time, I understood the body. I worked with it. I felt it. So I originally started trying to teach people, how do we do this by hand? It was an overwhelming response of my fingers hurt, I can’t do this. This would take hours. So then knowing what I created in the medical device that hands-down delivers to let go of that fascia no other way. Then the tools came, and the tools are a great wellness step for everybody, for the fact is it makes it easy. They feel good and they’re very efficient. And when we release the fascia, we’re able to release different emotions. We’re able to release physical pain. But the bonus of all this, that is not why I went into it, it’s just the aesthetic glow and effect because if the fascia houses every system, now we’re clearing the lymphatic system. We’re creating great blood flow. We’re clearing any blockages that are causing any type of nerve pain. So it just keeps overflowing and going. And then it also offers you great mental clarity because you’re cleaning out all the sludge, as I say it.
Alycia Anderson: And is that done through physical touch, like through the device? This is like really good timing. Yesterday, I literally got a treatment done for an hour. Longer, like massage, facial, went in a salt room, and I left there going, ” I am not releasing this entrepreneurial, tensed up energy that I have constantly of the hustle.” And going and going, and I release it.
I left. I’m glowing. I feel relaxed. Was there something with my fascia going on there?
Dr. Jessica Stavale: Yes.
Alycia Anderson: Wow.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: And how I figured that out too is because being massage therapist for so long and it’s an incredible field. You should still definitely see your therapist on all levels. You get a massage, and then it’s the next day, you’re like, “Dang, I’m all leet again.” And it’s because we’re not releasing the fascia in the delicate way. There are ways out there that taught to ultimately beat the crap out of somebody, to get the fascia to let go. And that’s just not what I believe. We are such innately intelligent human beings, and so is our body.
And so, we have to put trust into it by releasing it in the delicate manner. Absolutely. And my mind’s going, “Oh my gosh, I need to fly back out to California on the next trip, and I just need to use the system and the device on you.
Alycia Anderson: Yes, please.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: And I get it, yes. The tools are self-care.
It’s in a system to try to make it easy for the mind. It’s the pull, and the pulse, and the push, and to make that really easy. There’s rollers and different pull levels that pick up the tissue. And I probably should have had them here, but I didn’t, wasn’t prepared for that side. But that pick up the tissue.
Now, we’re so used to pushing and pushing on the tissue to let go. The roller device picks it up and rolls down. Feels amazing. The pulse is if you find an area of tenderness. If you were even just to prod on your chest, between your ribs, if you found a tender area, that’s a blockage. And it’s the fascia saying, we’re caught up here.
And so, how I originally taught it was this, “3, 3, 3,” like resuscitation to let it go. And then the push is the final exhale, like you would in standard massage where you’re just pushing and clearing the tissue out. The medical-grade tools make it super easy.
You can be laying in bed to do this, you can be watching TV. There is no, “Oh, I need to carve out all this dedicated time.” I have so many people come in with reviews, showing me photos if they got one of the rollers or the tools in their car. So they’re just like, “I’m just doing this as I’m driving home. Be careful driving. But, it just makes it really easy, and that’s what I wanted to create. Because as busy professionals, busy parents, or busy family, we don’t need another thing that we’re trying to fit in. That can feel very overwhelming. I do believe we need to prioritize our self-care and wellness. New to keep in mind, is many people that came to me, “But, oh, is this another thing that I have to find all this time for?” So, in knowing the psychology of people, I wanted to create something that feels good, but also was super easy and efficient, so people would actually start making more time to take care of themselves.
Alycia Anderson: Wow. So fascia is holding onto all of your energy? Is that what we’re saying?
Dr. Jessica Stavale: That is what I’m saying. Yes.
When you get the release, I’m serious. I have a couple more California trips coming up and I’m gonna make it work. And the medical device is something different that there are people that have experience, but there’s not like a ton, yet, until it’s in production.
And soon, they’ll be up with a ton of testimonials of what it can do. But with that, once you feel it let go, then you maintain with the tools, and it’s like a total shift in who you are and what you feel. Complete change.
Alycia Anderson: Wow. This is amazing. I’m seeing therapy studios going up for you all over the country. Amazing.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: I have multiple massage therapists, physical therapists right now that have already joined the affiliate program.
Alycia Anderson: Wow.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: I just met with a few therapists, osteopath and massage therapists, on my most recent LA business trip. They’re already signed up and have pre-ordered the infinite bloom it’s called, the medical device, because I literally have a text in my work phone being like, “This has been missing in my work that I have been waiting for, and they’re talking about my medical device.
Alycia Anderson: Wow. So you just mentioned your community, can we talk a little bit about your community group, the movement, everything that you’re creating with your business?
Dr. Jessica Stavale: Yes. So, I think the community, there is everybody coming together and knowing we do need something more, that there is this missing piece, and that is what I call fascia. It’s just the missing link. It’s just what brings everything together. And I think we’re in a place that we all are searching for something more, where we know that everything is intertwined together.
And the more that we try to segment it out and try to go piece-by-piece, the sicker that we are getting, the more disconnected we’re becoming. My community, with hope and a new way forward. And it brings in people from all walks of life, from personal to professional. A-names that, I’m just not a name dropper, they’re there and they’re there for it because what I teach delivers. And I think the integrity and character behind that is really important, because my plan was that I want this to forever change the well-being industry.
One day, when I retire, not sure when that will ever be at this point, but I would really love to make this common knowledge, to the point that it’s taught at a deeper level. At high school, anatomy classes, and then it advances. I’ve talked to so many PTs and they’re like, “We’re not even taught about this. We touch about it, we know it’s there, but we don’t deep dive.” And if that’s changed, or if that curriculum is changing, Bravo. But from everybody that I’ve spoken to right now, it’s not there yet.
Alycia Anderson: Wow. So that’s the North star. What is the ultimate North star for this, changing the wellness industry?
Dr. Jessica Stavale: Just continue to watch people change their lives. It is probably one of the most powerful and intoxicating currencies I’ve ever experienced. To watch people walk in with fibromyalgia, or no hope, or be stuck with different autoimmune, or just maybe psychologically to be stuck, because that’s so part of this. And to watch them change and to get their testimonial, to get the crying, the thank you, to know and empower people that they have such a play in this. It’s you versus you, and the more that you take care of you, it’s not selfish. The more I get to pour into other people. So it’s not meant to be taken as pour into yourself and only worry about you.
No. It means that I have to take care of me because now I can overpour all of that and make that impact.
Alycia Anderson: I love that, and I love that you just mentioned the psychology piece of it. You just mentioned several chronic illnesses, like that’s a huge number of people in the disabled community for sure. A lot of people who aren’t even identifying because they can mask it, and it’s an invisible disability.
Can you talk a little bit about the psychology shift that you’ve seen, like that piece of it? The mindset piece?
Dr. Jessica Stavale: The mindset, because we are driven by the mind. And it will recreate. I don’t believe in toxic positivity. I don’t believe in, “Oh, I’m just gonna say all this, and Poof, there it is.” But there’s intention. For example, of how to put this into the psychological perspective, if I were in a negative mindset and always looking for what is going wrong in my life, I’m gonna find it. And even I could surpass three good things that just happened, but, “Oh, I’m late for this. Oh, that’s just another thing wrong. Oh, but along the way, I got to help this person with this, or maybe I did this.” I’m just making stuff up here. But we missed all the good because of what we’re hyper-focused on in the mind.
So that is what we’re gonna see, and that is what’s going to be recreated. One of the hardest conversations that I have, and I always know it hits hard for people and it’s gonna land in two ways. They’re either gonna be open to it and work with me on it. I’ve never worked with somebody yet that has left and not come back, but victim mentality is a real thing. And I can own my own shit as I like to say, ’cause we all have to own our shit in order to change it. I lived in victim mentality after that second car accident, and I truly believe that’s part of what manifested into that severe chronic pain that I had. Were there physical things that have occurred to my body I will forever have to deal with? Absolutely. I’m not taking that away, but I couldn’t become unstuck because my mind was so stuck into why all of this was wrong and why it was never gonna change. And that was being validated by, they’re so intelligent, but so many different doctors and professions ’cause that’s what they did.
And so I started believing that story, and that’s where there’s this breaking moment where you just have to buck back and be like, “No. I do not accept this. I refuse to accept this.” And then the shift starts to happen because now I start empowering and taking ownership of my life. I will never be completely able-bodied. I will never fully live without pain, but now I know how to take care of myself. Days are absolutely pain-free and I can do things I never thought or imagined I’d do. Why? Because I align with myself in knowing that. And then I also know how to take care of myself through this amazing system that has created that shift. But it truly all starts with not staying stuck in a victim mentality. And making the best of whatever our situation is and not comparing.
Alycia Anderson: Yeah. Ooh. And the not comparing part is really hard. I struggle with that on a daily, myself. But I agree with that and I think that, for me, my disability, the challenges that come with it has been waiting for me my whole life to have an authentic relationship with it.
The good, the bad, the power. Things that can be limiting at times and how to be besties with it, how to work with it the best that you can.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: You just gave me chills.
Alycia Anderson: The path that it wants to have with you. And not just the limiting, why me? And that’s gonna show up sometimes, but also, let’s hold hands, let’s roll through it a little bit, and actually see what we can do together. And the victim mentality that you mentioned, that for me comes from also societal perspectives of bad, terrible. You’re never gonna feel better, you’re not gonna accomplish anything. You don’t belong here to, I’m gonna grab my disability’s hand, tight.
And we’re gonna put our heads up, and we’re gonna navigate this for a second. We might not be able to do it every day, but what if we try. I’m 50. It’s taken me so long to just be like, “Okay, do you wanna be friends? Let’s go.” That piece alone I think is huge.
Look at what’s happened to you in your life. You’re like, grab the hands of your disability and the challenges that you’ve had in your life, whether it’s disability or not, you’re like, “All right, that was tough. Let’s be friends and let’s navigate what this means up to the path.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: And I think it’s really important what you said. I may not be able to do this every day, and I’m human. I get to have days. There are gonna be some days I’m gonna ask myself, “Why?” There may be days that I compare, but then you can’t stay stuck there. But you do offer yourself grace because you are a human being and those are natural thoughts and emotions to occur.
So we never shame ourselves in that. But the biggest key in what you said is I’m not staying there. I’m not staying stuck there because that is what we would, excuse me, recreate itself if we were stuck there. You’re a powerhouse. I’ve always told you, I’m so inspired by you and just everything about you. And that’s why you gave me chills even when you said that, because you’re completely embodying that whole part of like, how do we make something beautiful? And I also wanna add in for the psychological component that I also understand sometimes coming through trauma or hard things isn’t always meant for this grand big ending. And sometimes it’s just knowing that I survived and I’m still here with my family, with my loved ones that just getting through is also okay.
So it doesn’t always have to be this miraculous story that happened if that wasn’t the path for that person. And it’s really just offering that self-love and grace.
Alycia Anderson: Totally, and it actually is those micro moment wins that are small and probably by yourself most of the time. The big stage or whatever, that’s great. But that isn’t like a long consistent, lived experience. It is the micro wins of, “Oh, I just accomplished that, or I feel good today.
Or my mental health is so awesome today. I feel clarity, I’m clear today. What can I accomplish?” So, yeah. I think those micro moments are so important. And, like you said, “Give yourself grace.”
Dr. Jessica Stavale: Yes
Alycia Anderson: To me, it seems like it’s fluid. You’re gonna have good moments, bad moments, and that’s life.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: Hundred percent.
Alycia Anderson: But I do think we, as disabled people, need to be allowed to celebrate the wins and the good moments, and not be stuck in that ” ugh, this is hard,” space, which is what is acceptable in general society for our lived experience.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: Yes.
Alycia Anderson: For a lot of us, we want more, we deserve more.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: And you can have more.
Alycia Anderson: Totally. A hundred percent. Wow. Ooh, I love it. It’s so good.
So, tell us, how do we find you? How do we engage with your community? All the good things.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: So, thefasciamovement.com is my central hub. From there, you’ll be able to connect, whether you prefer Facebook, whether it’s Instagram, whether it’s TikTok. I’m just starting off on TikTok, but I made the plunge at 43. I decided I could do it. And I am very engaged with my people. So if an email comes in, it may take me a week or so to get back, but if it’s one that’s directed to me, I will jump in and I will respond. And I really believe in that connection. I try very hard. Instagram is a very big platform for me, so there’s a lot of comments that come in and I do try to stay up to date with it. Sometimes a post will go on, but I’ve caught up on the post before. But I really do try, and I do have messages that come in through Instagram also, that I’m very good at responding to,usually within a seven day period.
Alycia Anderson: We’re talking about 1.9 million followers. Wow, I don’t even know how you get there. That’s incredible.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: As long as people have some grace with me that I’m one person. But I really do believe in that connection, and I really believe in how fascia has such a powerful play in cell health, immune health, mental health, everything you can possibly imagine.
But connection is still one of our greatest healing modalities. In a world of electronics, sometimes it’s hard to remember. But as human beings, I still think connection is the powerhouse, and it’s what we need as humans. And so I really try to live with that character and integrity to connect with as many as I can.
Alycia Anderson: Connection. I love it. Like our new connection. I can’t wait for this friendship to grow. I love it.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: I love it.
Alycia Anderson: This was a very beautiful conversation. I loved it.
Before we wrap up, I know that you’ve got a book coming out, I believe, next year. Do you wanna speak to that for a moment?
Dr. Jessica Stavale: Yes. So it’s actually going to release in November, and we just started presale. It is called the Fascia Blueprint, and I literally call it the Holy Grail of everything, fascia. It will connect things that will absolutely blow your mind and how it connects to you. And I write in a very concise and understandable way.
It is not written in a high, clinical form. It is written for you to understand because I believe in self-care, so I’m trying to teach you and I have the how-to in there. So I have how to help yourself. I have how it relates to you. It covers, I think, over 50 conditions, over a hundred different symptoms.
I mean it deep dives. And then I also do share, in-depth, my own personal story as one chapter. So you can get to know me and know the heart and where this really came from and the integrity behind it. So presale is available and the book will release in November. At this time, it’s gonna be just through my website that I’ll be selling the book, and I may look at different avenues come 2026.
Alycia Anderson: Amazing. Congratulations on that.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: Thank you.
Alycia Anderson: And I love that you tell your story and that’s the heart of it. I can’t wait to read the book and learn more.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: Thank you.
Alycia Anderson: Maybe you’ll have to come back on and talk about it.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: I would love to.
Alycia Anderson: Okay. I warned you. We wrap up the show with the pushing forward moment. You gotta have a little inspiration to leave our community with today.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: I think it’s staying in growth mindset. That is what I teach. That’s what I live by. You have to stay in growth mindset to be able to know yourself, and to learn others, and to learn new ways forward, and to know that intelligence continues to grow. So as new things are presented, we have to allow them in, and be open-minded, and in growth mindset to actually apply new things that are being taught that allow us to level up our personal selves, our you-versus-you relationship.
Alycia Anderson: Wow, that was jampacked. I have a follow up question.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: Yes.
Alycia Anderson: How do you stay in a growth mindset? How do you do that?
Dr. Jessica Stavale: It’s truly being able to look at why this situation is happening to me, what is being taught to me right now. And it’s what we talked about towards the beginning of the show. It’s not trying to be in a mindset where I’m trying to discredit something else. How do I take in intelligence? Collaboration of that intelligence is what’s powerful. You put multiple intelligent people in a room to solve a problem, you’re gonna get their way faster than one person trying to sit there by themselves. There are very intelligent human beings that can solve problems on their own, but when we really push those limits, then we stay in that mindset to be, what can I learn from the situation?
If I want change, how do I perceive and look at this situation differently, so that I can have a change in my life?
Alycia Anderson: I love it. Thank you for bringing all of your beautiful healing energy to the show. Your work is incredible. Congratulations.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: Thank you.
Alycia Anderson: You’re a total powerhouse. You show women anything is possible, love it.
Dr. Jessica Stavale: Anything? Yes.
Alycia Anderson: Alright, I’m gonna wrap up. This has been a wonderful talk.
When Dr. Jess’s book starts to come out, we will post about all that. All of her links are in the show notes. And another just genuine gift of gratitude to our community for showing up the way you do for the show. We’re growing, we are having so much success, and it’s all because of you. So I’m thankful, and we will see you next time.
This has been Pushing Forward with Alycia and Dr. Jess, and that is literally how we roll on this podcast. We will see you next time.