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Deafness, Captions & Accessibility: Progress Over Perfection


Published: Thursday September 3, 2026
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Meryl Evans on growing up deaf, accessible content, lived experience and why inclusion starts with learning, listening and continuing to improve.

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What does accessibility look like when you have depended on it your entire life?

This week on Pushing Forward with Alycia, Alycia Anderson welcomes respected accessibility advocate, speaker, content creator, consultant and CPACC-certified professional Meryl K. Evans for a candid conversation about deafness, captions, communication, advocacy and why lived experience matters when we design more accessible experiences.

Born profoundly deaf, Meryl grew up lip-reading, using hearing aids and learning how to navigate a hearing world long before today’s accessibility technology existed. She remembers hunting through the TV Guide for the tiny closed-captioning symbol and the moment captions finally gave her access to the conversations everyone else was already having.

Today, Meryl helps organizations better understand accessibility through training, workshops, accessible content, user experience testing and speaking. And she brings an important reminder to the work: accessibility does not require instant perfection. It requires a willingness to listen, learn and keep moving forward.

Alycia and Meryl explore everything from growing up disabled and finding confidence through sports to the evolution of captioning, accessible social media, reading friction, disability language and the importance of hiring people with lived experience.

Meryl also challenges a growing social media trend: captions designed primarily to entertain rather than communicate.

As she explains, captions are information first. When words bounce, flash, change colors or appear one at a time, the very accessibility feature intended to provide access can instead become another barrier.

The conversation closes with a message that applies far beyond accessibility: progress over perfection.

We do not need to know everything before we begin. We need to remain curious, keep learning and continue making progress.

And sometimes progress includes knowing when to rest.

As Meryl reminds us:

There’s a difference between taking a break and quitting.

~ Meryl Evans

In This Episode

🐝 Growing Up Deaf
Meryl shares what it was like being born profoundly deaf, learning to lip-read and recognizing at an early age that she communicated differently.

🏆 Sports, Confidence & Disability
From softball to basketball, soccer, volleyball and half-marathons, Meryl reflects on how sports helped build confidence, competitiveness and resilience.

💬 The Evolution of Captions
From searching TV Guide for captioned programming to today’s built-in captioning tools, Meryl shares how dramatically access has changed during her lifetime.

📱 Captions Are Information, Not Entertainment
Why animated, colorful or one-word-at-a-time captions may look engaging but create cognitive overload for people who rely on them.

♿ Lived Experience Matters
If you want to know whether an accessibility feature truly works, include people who depend on that feature in the testing and design process.

👀 Reducing Reading Friction
Small choices including alignment, capitalization, font size and formatting can dramatically change how easy content is to consume.

🗣️ Language & Disability Advocacy
Alycia and Meryl discuss terminology, education and why people sometimes need the opportunity to learn rather than being expected to already know everything.

🌱 Progress Over Perfection
Organizations are complex. Accessibility is ongoing. Sustainable inclusion happens when people continue learning and improving rather than waiting until everything is perfect.

❤️ Rest Is Not Quitting
Meryl’s Pushing Forward Moment reminds us to understand our energy, take care of ourselves and recognize the difference between taking a needed break and giving up.

Episode Chapters

00:00 Podcast Intro

00:25 Meet Meryl Evans

01:52 Growing Up Deaf

03:39 Sports And Confidence

06:38 How Meryl Communicates

10:10 Captions Change Everything

13:28 Captions For Everyone

15:14 What Makes Captions Bad

18:12 Becoming An Advocate

21:38 Work With Companies Today

24:25 UX Testing And Reading Friction

26:38 Language Matters In Disability

27:45 Hope For The Future

29:33 Progress Over Perfection

31:31 Pushing Forward Moment

32:27 Final Thanks And Sign Off

Connect with Meryl Evans

Continue learning from and connecting with Meryl K. Evans, CPACC, accessibility consultant, speaker, inclusion advocate and UX tester. Meryl works with organizations through accessibility consulting, speaking engagements, training, workshops and user experience testing.

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Pushing Forward with Alycia gives disability a voice through conversations about accessibility, inclusion, ambition, resilience, leadership, advocacy, and creating a more inclusive world for all people.

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